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As a King (in the insect sense) of Mandasars, Edward had certain powers:

SMELL: He has an enhanced sense of smell, on par with that of a mandasar. Everyone has a different smell, and Edward sometimes experiences it as sound or color or texture. He also seems to be able to smell people who are up to no good to a certain extent, but this hasn't been verified. What this amounts to is that Edward can smell your soul.

PHEROMONES: Edward can put out various kinds of pheromones. Mostly he uses them to communicate with his mandasar goons, and these smells are unobtrusive and inoffensive to humans, and he has near-perfect control of those. But he can also influence humans with pheromones, and this he does not always do consciously. Broadly, he can influence their moods. Specifically, there are several things he can do.
-Attraction: Basically, this pheromone makes your character attracted to Edward.
-Repulsion: The opposite. Edward generally has to concentrate to produce this effect, but basically, if your character was turned on, they'll be turned off, and probably want to run out of the room.
-Mandasar pheromones, like warrior musk or worker and gentle scents, or (as rarely as possible) royal pheromone, though those only work on mandasars and you don't have to be concerned about them. If I mention them at all it's only because one of Edward's goons are around and in need of reassurance or incentive or something.

Humans are generally not aware that this is going on. Their sense of smell is so atrophied and unimportant to them that they don't know when they're being influenced by it, so only the most extreme reaction will really make them question why they're suddenly acting the way they are.

NOTES ON RESISTING: As I implied in the last paragraph, pheromones are not an instant-win button. While subtle scents shouldn't tip off the average human, scents that induce an extreme reaction can sort of be picked up on and resisted. They won't know how it's happening, but if it's enough out of the ordinary for them, it's entirely possible to figure out something is up, mostly because hey, why is it I suddenly want to do this thing more than anything else in the world? Like the pinecone in Oglaf.
And if they know something is up, and they have the willpower, they can resist.


So the question is:

May Edward use his pheromones on your character? If so, is there anything that could complicate matters? Does your character also have an enhanced sense of smell and will they be aware that this is happening to them? Is your character not human in such a way that they don't experience smells in the same way?
What does your character's soul smell like? This should reflect their personality somewhat, but it can seriously be anything. Characters in the series smelled like buttered toast, or frost green, or the sound of thunderstorms, or the texture of a walnut, or even just feeling the need to yawn and stretch.

Date: 2011-10-05 11:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] derigo.livejournal.com
May Edward pheromone your character? Sure! Todd's sense of smell is probably more refined than a human's, though, so he might eventually catch on.
What does your character's soul smell like? It smells like the slow passage of centuries, or a slightly mildew-y coat closet. He just smells old, impossibly old.

Date: 2011-10-05 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eternal-dolly.livejournal.com
May Edward pheromone your character?
Victoria, Lain, and Nishiki I'd rather you not. Fran is fair game.
What does your character's soul smell like?
Victoria: Freshly polished porcelain.
Lain: Crackling electricity
Nishiki: Plastic
Fran: medical supplies

Date: 2011-10-05 09:57 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-10-06 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wheelsandbeats.livejournal.com
May Edward pheromone your character? Absolutely. Tavros is obviously not human, but as far as anyone can tell his sense of smell is no different.
What does your character's soul smell like? Skittish herding herbivores.

Date: 2011-10-07 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] worm-dancer.livejournal.com
May Edward pheromone your character? Sheeana is probably immune, Sah'ot doesn't have a nose. Jinto is fine, as the situation would be hilariously awkward and he'd feel terrible.

What does your character's soul smell like?

Sheeana: flinty cinnamon
Sah'ot: seaweed
Jinto: tupperware, milkshakes, french fries

Date: 2011-10-08 05:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stillkatriel.livejournal.com
May Edward pheromone your character? Yes, but only mildly, if that's alright - she won't pick up on it, but I'd rather it didn't cause her to do or feel anything that'd be wildly OOC for her without the pheromones. Reasonable use is fine, though.
What does your character's soul smell like? The air in the moment before a summer storm

Date: 2011-10-08 06:35 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lest_ye_become
Roxie:

Roxie being pheremone-manipulated is OK... with the caveat that she'll probably jury-rig something to at least theoretically negate the effect on herself, if she manages to find out what's going on. Also, general paranoia.

Roxie's scent would be... weird. Not only is she kind of literally crazy, she screws around with weird magic stuff all the time and that probably leaves a lingering element. I'm not really sure how this should work out, but it should probably be something either ominous or really idiosyncratic (like it synaesthetically turning into entire magically-symbolic images, or something).

Tess:

Tess being affected by pheromones is OK, but her biofeedback stuff means she'd become aware of it pretty quickly and rapidly swing back from the effect (mostly). (It's not the pheromone part itself she'd sense, but rather the mental effect on her.)

And she'd smell... nice. What with having colonies of semi-intelligent bioengineered bacteria living in her manipulating all her body functions, there's a literal undertone of roses buried somewhere in there, though it's much less noticeable now than it used to be. He might notice how engineered and sterile her general scent is despite the nice first impression, though.

Date: 2011-10-09 06:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] questionablewit
Cool!

May Edward pheromone your character? Sure, could be interesting. However, Hawke may realize you're doing something; it's similar, kiiiiiiinda, to something that's been done to her in her world. (she is entirely human)

What does your character's soul smell like? The glint of sunlight on sharp metal.

Date: 2011-10-09 11:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] prideofabh
May Edward pheromone your character? In general, yes, but I'd prefer to be alerted first as to the details, if Edward does more than a weak 'be well-disposed to me'/'be ill-disposed to me'.
What does your character's soul smell like?
Ai/[livejournal.com profile] allmylovenspace: Chocolate and olive leaves, and a sensation of weightlessness.
George/[livejournal.com profile] truthafterzeend: Diet Coke Alertness, newsprint & ink, with an undertone of rotten flesh.
Lafiel: Wind and ozone, and the sensation of flying.

(This kind of makes me regret playing George instead of Toby Daye, from one of the the author's other series -- magic has an odor in that series tied to the individual user.)

Date: 2011-10-15 05:29 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-10-15 05:30 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-10-15 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobstermonarch.livejournal.com
Terrible feelings all round!

Date: 2011-10-15 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobstermonarch.livejournal.com
Reasonable is what I'm all about, bb!

Date: 2011-10-15 05:33 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-10-15 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobstermonarch.livejournal.com
I will always warn you before I try anything.

Date: 2011-10-15 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobstermonarch.livejournal.com
On Rosie's scent: (oh god I just had a terrible idea - cheetos and mountain dew!) but seriously uh... I got nothing. I'm sure he can smell things that don't exist in his universe and still know that it's magic! but... idk all I can think of right now is the Discworld's version of Primordial Soup. Which is in my copy of Nanny Ogg's Cookbook.

On Tess's: Plastic roses, got it.

Date: 2011-10-16 02:57 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lest_ye_become
For Roxie, maybe something kind of noxious (in the chemical-scents) sort of way, and/or a hallucinogenic/psychotropic element associated with it.

Date: 2011-10-18 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobstermonarch.livejournal.com
Oh man, how did I type rosie just there. whoops :P

So just smelling her will make him slightly trippy? Good to know. :D

Date: 2011-11-15 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] namedwithhonour.livejournal.com
May Edward pheromone your character?
Sure! But be prepared to be berated if she finds out :)

What does your character's soul smell like? It smells like burning wood, salty sea water, cold air, soil and iron all at the same time. Or one at a time. On very rare cases, it will also smell like dry ice. But it will smell sweet overall.

Date: 2011-11-19 04:24 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-11-20 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hotshot-momma.livejournal.com
May Edward pheromone your character?

Anna will hate you for it, but you can. She's resistant to having her emotions tampered with, but this means a diminished effect rather than total negation.

What does your character's soul smell like?

Metal, blood, hot water, and ozone.

Date: 2011-11-20 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobstermonarch.livejournal.com
He tries to be responsible with his powers. And it'll help that Anna's too young for him and not his type

Anders

Date: 2011-12-03 10:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] birdhousesoul
May Edward pheromone your character?
Yes
What does your character's soul smell like? His soul smells like freedom. And fireworks.

Murbella

Date: 2011-12-03 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barefootbg.livejournal.com
May Edward pheromone your character? Yes

What does your character's soul smell like? Like dragon's blood (the plant/perfume/resin, not, like, the actual blood of a dragon)

Date: 2011-12-09 05:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwrathofangels.livejournal.com
May Edward pheromone your character? Yeah, sure. Just realise he's pretty darn desperate, so attraction ones may not be the best idea. Or repulsion ones, since trolls do kind of have an entire sector of romance just for that special someone they hate above all others...
What does your character's soul smell like? A shockingly organised mish-mash of wrath and desperation, with overtones of overly sweet plum wine, undertones of angelic light, all wrapped around a tiny flicker of hope. (Although it's worth noting that in Alternian society angels are closer in nature to the human idea of demons, being terrible beings...)

Date: 2011-12-10 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobstermonarch.livejournal.com
It's worth noting that what Edward did to repel someone in canon is he emitted a pheromone that was an exact duplicate of her own unique smell (which was frost green). He was counting on the incest taboo to turn her off. But if she had been a narcissist, that strategy would have backfired big time.

It's not really a question of 'love' or 'hate' or 'hatemance' even. I don't think Edward can influence people on so complex a level.

Date: 2011-12-10 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwrathofangels.livejournal.com
Ahhhh. That makes sense.

But.

Weyell.

...Yeah Eridan is just a little narcissistic...

As in, it isn't at all OOC to play him in like dear_mun flirting with alternate versions of himself or his Ancestor. Which is pretty much exactly what it sounds like, only add in the fact that since trolls come from an incestuous slurry [they're insect-like, so] it means someone who you supposedly got the majority/all of your genes from. Regardless of the veracity of that, with how trolls believe they should emulate their Ancestors and continue on from their unfinished work, once you add in that they're close to exact genetic duplicates-

Oh, and since technically the 12 trolls who are in Homestuck and their Ancestors were created through a process known as ectobiology, not the incestuous slurry mentioned above? Actually Eridan and his Ancestor are the same genetically.

-Basically I really doubt sending Eridan's own scent back to him would repel him.

And that was a very roundabout way of getting to that point.

Date: 2011-12-10 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobstermonarch.livejournal.com
hahah, yeah, I thought that would be just about the size of it.

And that's forgetting that trolls HAVE NO incest taboo.

Date: 2011-12-10 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwrathofangels.livejournal.com
Oh yes, that is forgetting that.

Since, you know, if they did it would make the whole incestuous slurry thing a little difficult...

Date: 2012-01-13 04:08 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sar_cat_stic
May Edward pheromone your character? Yes! Although Jiji might notice explicitly, he's not likely to act like he realizes it's a trick. He's a very cat sort of cat, and is therefore at least twice as curious and irreverent as would be good sense. Given the role scents and pheromones play in normal cat communications, he'll read them more like roadsigns than subliminal suggestions.

Which isn't to say they won't make him do stupid things. But he'll be capable of snapping out of it, if only he had the presence of mind to do so, or if whatever he's being told is the thing to do is completely out of the ballpark.

What does your character's soul smell like? Pancakes and woodsmoke

Date: 2012-01-13 04:18 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] like_a_lion
May Edward pheromone your character?

Tis fine, Saber is nearly invulnerable to magic but I doubt that would effect this.

What does your character's soul smell like?
Saber's soul likely smells like blood and steel. Seeing as she seen her fair share of both in her life time.

Re: Anders

Date: 2012-01-13 02:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] birdhousesoul
Which makes me wonder: is there a scent that magic might have? Some underlying tone or ester or whiff of ozone that magic-users might have in common?

Re: Murbella

Date: 2012-01-13 02:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] birdhousesoul
Also I kind of want Edward to pheromone Murbella because (1) I don't do nearly enough with her, and (2) it would be hilarious to watch her make an ass of herself. The BG mask can get boring.

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